21st CENTURY CONCERNS
In ancient Greece, philosophers and law makers had very definite opinions about the role of music in the society. Integrity and responsibility were to meters that had to be met by composers and performers. The Greeks believed, as did Napoleon Bonaparte, that musicians had a significant influence over the people, particularly the young people of the society, and therefore must be above reproach in their personal moral integrity. There was one element of music that was considered counterproductive, if not detrimental. It was the principle of ostinato, a recurring, repetitious rhythmic, melodic or harmonic pattern that becomes pervasive in the music. The Greeks believed that such constant repetition, had the power to control the minds of the listeners, or at least to cause the part of the mind which holds judgement (we define it as the conscious mind) to yield to that portion which functions without judgement (unconscious mind). The Greeks firmly believed that messages conveyed in such a convention would have the tyrannical effect of “brain washing” the listener to accept messages, that under normal circumstances would be deemed unacceptable. Careful scrutiny with substantial penalties for abuse were used. Plato and Aristotle spoke often of the power of music for good and for destruction. 1. Plato and Aristotle: music has the power to "harmonize the body and soul." The use of ostinato, today carries two effects with it, one is the effect of lulling the listener into a dream-like, unconscious thought process, and the other is one of irritation in which the listener wishes to escape the effect. What would the Greeks have thought of the fact, that the most salient feature of popular music of our generation is ostinato. Could they have been right?
My Purpose
My Purpose
The purpose of this blog is to help people understand that music can be more then just entertainment, and what those things are. I want be able to help people with this blog. I don't know everything about music, I am still studying it, however, I will share what I have found. I hope you will be enlighted and edified by what I have to share. I worry that some people might turn a deaf ear to my blog if they read something on this blog that they don't agree with. I respect your beliefs. I don't agree with everything I read either. But I know you can find something that can help and interest you, if you just keep reading.
The purpose of this blog is to help people understand that music can be more then just entertainment, and what those things are. I want be able to help people with this blog. I don't know everything about music, I am still studying it, however, I will share what I have found. I hope you will be enlighted and edified by what I have to share. I worry that some people might turn a deaf ear to my blog if they read something on this blog that they don't agree with. I respect your beliefs. I don't agree with everything I read either. But I know you can find something that can help and interest you, if you just keep reading.
"Quotes Worth Mentioning"
QUOTES WORTH MENTIONING
When asked where his inspiration came from, Johannes Brahms said, "I immediately feel vibrations that thrills my whole being. These are the Spirit illuminating the soul power within, and in this exalted state, I see clearly what is obscure in my ordinary moods: Then I feel capable of drawing inspiration from above, as Beethoven ... Straighway the ideas flow in upon me, directly from God, and not only do I see distinct themes in my mind's eye but they are clothed in the right forms, harmonies, and orchestration. Measure by measure, the finished product is revealed to me when I am in those rare, inspired moods." "The powers from which all truly great composers like Mozart, Schubert, Bach and Beethoven drew their inspiration is the same power that enabled Jesus to work his miracles. It is the same power that created our earth and the whole universe"
("Talks with Great Composers", Arthur M. Abell)
"Give me power over he who shapes the music of a nation, and I care not for who shapes it laws"
Napolian Bonaparte
“Intellectual enlightenment consists of instruction in the arts, numbers, history, speech, and government. Music consummates a man’s life, giving his rituals meaning. Music has a trensforming effect on its listeners, and should be the first principle of government.” -The Teachings of Confucius.
I quote some remarks between,Gene R. Cook, and Mik Jagger made a few years ago:
Cook: "I have the opportunity to be with a lot of young people. Many say your music does not affect them adversely in any way. Others say it effects them in a very bad way. What is your opinion? What is your impact?”
Jagger "Our music is calculated to drive the kids to sex. It's not my fault what they do. It's up to them. I'm just making a lot of money.”
Cook: He was in Mexico making a profane and pornographic music video because the cost is 1/3 there. In addition it is easier to produce such videos there at the moment. He explained that though such videos with explicit sexual behavior is illegal on US national television, it soon will be, and they want to have the videos ready. Now not only audio pornography can be portrayed, but they can view it as well. He was making more money this way."
Jagger:“It doesn't matter what you do in life, there are no rules. There is no god. You can take whatever you want. It doesn't matter."
"To encourage literature and the arts is the duty which every good citizen owns to his country."
George Washington
"Music has the power of producing a certain effect on the moral character of the soul, and if it has the power to do this, it is clear that the young must be directed to music and must be educated in it."
Aristotle
(more qoutes to come)
When asked where his inspiration came from, Johannes Brahms said, "I immediately feel vibrations that thrills my whole being. These are the Spirit illuminating the soul power within, and in this exalted state, I see clearly what is obscure in my ordinary moods: Then I feel capable of drawing inspiration from above, as Beethoven ... Straighway the ideas flow in upon me, directly from God, and not only do I see distinct themes in my mind's eye but they are clothed in the right forms, harmonies, and orchestration. Measure by measure, the finished product is revealed to me when I am in those rare, inspired moods." "The powers from which all truly great composers like Mozart, Schubert, Bach and Beethoven drew their inspiration is the same power that enabled Jesus to work his miracles. It is the same power that created our earth and the whole universe"
("Talks with Great Composers", Arthur M. Abell)
"Give me power over he who shapes the music of a nation, and I care not for who shapes it laws"
Napolian Bonaparte
“Intellectual enlightenment consists of instruction in the arts, numbers, history, speech, and government. Music consummates a man’s life, giving his rituals meaning. Music has a trensforming effect on its listeners, and should be the first principle of government.” -The Teachings of Confucius.
I quote some remarks between,Gene R. Cook, and Mik Jagger made a few years ago:
Cook: "I have the opportunity to be with a lot of young people. Many say your music does not affect them adversely in any way. Others say it effects them in a very bad way. What is your opinion? What is your impact?”
Jagger "Our music is calculated to drive the kids to sex. It's not my fault what they do. It's up to them. I'm just making a lot of money.”
Cook: He was in Mexico making a profane and pornographic music video because the cost is 1/3 there. In addition it is easier to produce such videos there at the moment. He explained that though such videos with explicit sexual behavior is illegal on US national television, it soon will be, and they want to have the videos ready. Now not only audio pornography can be portrayed, but they can view it as well. He was making more money this way."
Jagger:“It doesn't matter what you do in life, there are no rules. There is no god. You can take whatever you want. It doesn't matter."
"To encourage literature and the arts is the duty which every good citizen owns to his country."
George Washington
"Music has the power of producing a certain effect on the moral character of the soul, and if it has the power to do this, it is clear that the young must be directed to music and must be educated in it."
Aristotle
(more qoutes to come)
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I would like the references used to support the idea that the Greeks had about repetitive rhythmic, melodic or harmonic patterns. It would be very helpful to have this information as soon as possible.
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JR
Sorry i haven't been active on this blogg or a few years, I just saw you post, I am sooo sorry i missed it til now. Let me dig into my data bank and pull up those sources.
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